ive here. ZOMG, that’s delicious. Duda spoke for more than seven minutes to the comedians, who pretended to be cunning. Duda has made some confessions that don’t go over well.
You might think that after Macron was naughty and had some reporters in the room with him during a conversation with Putin, other national leaders would assume that the call with Macron was not private. This level of caution may have minimized the damage.
By John Helmer, who was Russia’s longest-serving foreign correspondent, and the only Western journalist to run his bureau independently of national or business ties. Helmer was also a professor of political science and an advisor to the heads of government in Greece, the United States and Asia. Originally published in Dances with Bears
In a telephone conversation on November 15, shortly after the Ukrainian missile explosion in Przewodów, Polish President Andrzej Duda (Lead image, left) He said in a secret phone call with French President Emmanuel Macron: “Believe me, I’m very careful, I don’t blame the Russians. Emmanuel, this is a war. I think both sides will blame each other for this war … Do you think I need a war with Russia? No, I don’t want that. I don’t want a war with Russia, I’m very careful, believe me. I’m very careful. “
Duda was indicating that he did not believe Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s claim, which he also repeated to Macron, that the missile attack was launched by Russia.
The phone call lasted 7 minutes 31 seconds and was conducted in English. It wasn’t until later that Duda realized he hadn’t spoken to Macron. It took the Polish president a week before he revealed publicly that there had been a phone call. This revelation on Al-Mushfiri’s Twitter account did not reveal what was said, and misrepresented how the conversation ended. This was only run after Vovan and Lexus, two skilled Russian parody artists, They published their tape recording in Moscow.
The recording on tape can be listened to here; It was first broadcast on Tuesday, November 22, between 8 and 8:30 am, Moscow time, with subtitles and voiceover in Russian. Listen to the original English version here. The first Russian press report was published at 12:36 pm Moscow time. Duda’s office posted two consecutive tweets at 1:52 pm Moscow time.
Polish sources in Warsaw say the phone call, and the week-long delay between Duda’s conversation and his tweets, raise serious questions about Poland’s national security and sovereignty. A source comments that Duda “appears to be lying. The Rutube tape shows a full conversation, with goodbyes, not an abrupt ‘hangup’.”
In the absence of mainstream Polish media coverage, Stanislas Balcirac, an independent analyst in Warsaw, says the Polish intelligence services are incompetent for failing to detect the impersonation before Duda began speaking — or for allowing the president to be tricked into making his confessions in response to the Przewodów attack, particularly relying on To which Duda admitted to the American “experts” to find out what happened.
“The question arises,” Balsirac reported last August, “Whether it is really impossible to find competent and intelligent people in Poland. Or is the problem deeper and lies in the assumptions of the Third Polish Republic, a country that, having regained its independence, was supposed to be independent in theory, but in reality the special services played For stronger neighbours?” Balsirac was pointing out that the BND and the CIA run their own factions within the Polish services.
A NATO veteran comments that Duda was “definitely nervous. You’d think he was worried he was talking to someone pretending to be Moscow or someone else, or that the CIA or someone else was listening to him.”
Moscow sources commented on the one-week delay before Vovan and Lexus released the tape. They suspected long enough for the Russian Stavka to analyze Duda’s remarks. deciding whether the president is being kept in the dark by the Polish military and security services; and arranging secret messages to Warsaw as long as Duda was able to keep the secret.
The recording reveals that President Duda accepted President Macron’s identity from the beginning to the end of the conversation. “Hi Emmanuel. Thank you. Thank you for calling,” Duda opened. When Macron’s voice said he was tired and concluded the conversation, Duda ended the call by saying, “Thank you. Thank you. Have a nice day.”
Duda’s November 22 tweet that he “realised from the unusual way the interviewer conducted the conversation that there may have been attempted fraud and ended the conversation” is false.
The acronym KPRP used in the tweet refers to the president’s committee for national security and defense affairs and is roughly equivalent to the US National Security Council (NSC).
The BBC, reporting on Rutobi’s recording and Duda’s tweet, claimed, “Ultimately, as the caller continued to push Mr Duda into his thoughts on Mr Zelenskiy, the Polish president hung up.” this is a lie.
Duda’s hesitation was evident throughout the conversation. He repeated himself to Macron for emphasis. The Polish president reads and speaks English but is reluctant to use English in an official conversation.
Duda started the call by telling Macron that the missile had “we don’t know from whom it was launched somewhere in a monastery, in a monastery, in the east”. He described the weapon as “probably Russian missiles produced by Russia”. Asked explicitly whether US President Joseph Biden blamed Russia for its launch, Duda replied: “Noah.”
He told Macron that that evening he had already spoken with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, Biden, and Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky; Duda personally referred to the latter two by their first names; NATO official Duda, who was known by his full name. When asked who launched the missile, Duda replied: “I don’t know, I don’t know.” He went on to say that Biden was sending US experts to Poland “to support and assist our experts… I am waiting for a result.” [US investigation]. “
Polish, NATO and Russian sources comment that Duda was not mentioned, and did not appear to have been shown the Polish radar evidence of the missile launch, recorded at Labony, about 40 kilometers from the missile strike at Przydow. Since Polish air defense radars are also integrated with NATO Regional Command and the United States, neither Stoltenberg nor Biden appears to have told Duda what their military intelligence reports were actually showing from the radars, from the German-based NATO AWACS patrols, and from American satellites. . “Poland is beheaded,” commented a source in Warsaw.
“Volodymyr,” Duda said over the phone, referring to Zelensky, “blames the Russians and is absolutely sure that he [a] The Russians fired a Russian missile, and he said there was no possibility that the der, der, der, der missile was fired by the Ukrainians. That’s what he told me.”
“Emmanuel, I – believe me – I am very careful,” Duda replied when asked if he would accept Zelensky’s requests for more weapons. “I don’t blame the Russian – Emmanuel, you know, believe me, this is a war, and I think both sides will blame the other in this war, yeah.”
He later added, “There is no clear evidence that the S300, according to us [Polish] detectives. When asked why the Polish foreign minister, Zbigniew Rau, seemed to blame Moscow for the missile attack, Duda corrected Rau by saying that the missile was “Russian-made”.
Duda stressed that there was no attack on Polish soil to justify invoking Article 5 of NATO. Explaining how this “all for one for all” condition applies to the Przewodow incident, Washington Post He claimed on 16 November that there was “speculation” that the Polish government might invoke Article 5 or Article 4. And that’s “as of Wednesday [November 16]there was no indication that Poland had done so.” MailUS government sources were concealing what Biden agreed two days ago.
“Believe me, I am very careful,” Duda repeated to Macron. “I think we don’t need an escalation, or an escalation between NATO and Russia… I don’t want Article Five… We don’t need it… Do you think I want a war with Russia. I don’t want a war with Russia, I’m very careful, believe me” .
First Russian press source: https://www.rbc.ru/
The first German press source was the state public radio Deutschlandfunk which posted this on the evening of November 22. The German radio emphasized that Duda had been deceived by a Russian trick, and it omitted to quote most of what Duda had said. “The duo [Vovan and Lexus] fooled Duda in the conversation published on the platform Rutube that he was talking to French President Macron. The presidential administration confirmed this on Twitter.” Unlike the British propaganda organ BBC, the German radio gave its listeners the direct URL link so that they could listen to the Duda-Macron conversation for themselves. A Warsaw source commented late in the Warsaw evening: “One has to move to Germany to read about Duda's stunt”.
The Kremlin website notes that President Vladimir Putin has said nothing publicly about the Polish incident.
In a report by the state news agency, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov responded on the evening of November 16 to US allegations about what happened: “The Americans speak in the form of ‘if there is no such-and-such, there will not be this. Then it makes sense to rewind. And we will see the root cause of everything – this is NATO and the United States at the fore.
Dmitry Medvedev, the former Russian president who is now deputy secretary of the Security Council, declared on his Telegram channel, two days before the council meeting on November 18: “An end to the hysteria of the Kievites over their revenge attack on Poland. This is what haunts me. If a Ukrainian anti-missile hits for aircraft [US] Capitol direct, would it have been betrayal [Ukrainian word, “betrayal”] or a Primoja [Ukrainian, “victory”]? The official statement of the Russian Security Council, dated 1:30 p.m. on November 18, stated that “the participants discussed improving civil defence.” If this was meant to be ironic with reference to Polish civil defense around Przewodów, he fled Almost everyone.
Source: Left, RIA News Agency, November 16 at 10:53 pm. Centre: Foreign Ministry, November 17 at 5:56 pm. Right: Kremlin, November 18 at 1:30 pm.
The day after Peskov and Medvedev’s public statements, a spokesman for the Russian Foreign Ministry, Ivan Nechayev, issued this comment, avoiding any reference to Polish officials: “I want to emphasize that immediately after the accident that claimed two lives, the Russian Ministry of Defense issued a comment that the forces The Russian armed forces had nothing to do with the missiles that fell on Polish soil. We noticed completely anti-Russian and anti-Russian reactions on the part of representatives of many NATO countries and the media. They immediately accused Russia, as if someone asked (perhaps they were preparing), before any investigation and identification The cause of the accident. This was not the first time such a response was made. The collective West is known for its use of this tactic, making baseless accusations at Russia without thoroughly investigating the incident. We want to point out that Kyiv is also making unsupported allegations Against Russia whenever the opportunity arises, expressing its anti-Russian position. Perhaps now the Kyiv regime will think twice. Western coordinators are beginning to get annoyed. Russia insists on conducting a comprehensive investigation into this incident and revealing its results. Russia insists on Conduct a thorough investigation into this incident and disclose its results.”
In the same briefing, the State Department issued this statement regarding the attack on the Russian Embassy in Warsaw that took place on November 12, three days before the Przyudov attack. Note Nechaev’s reference to the proximity of President Duda’s residence.
“In the early hours of November 12, unknown individuals attempted to attack our diplomatic mission in Warsaw twice, by throwing flares and bottles with inflammable substance over the embassy wall. The police passively watched what was happening and did not attempt to arrest the attacker. Situation when exposed A foreign diplomatic mission in the heart of the Polish capital, in close proximity to other protected facilities such as the Ministry of National Defense and the residences of the Polish President and Prime Minister, was attacked in a very serious way Diplomatic missions from any intrusion or damage. We call on Poland to ensure the safety of Russian diplomatic and consular missions in their country and to ensure the inviolability of our foreign missions from illegal acts. We call on the competent Polish authorities to investigate the incident and hold those responsible accountable.”
There is a debate in Moscow about the size of the American agent (Lead image, right) Polish officials like President Duda in the current situation. The well-informed Moscow source believes the phone transcript confirms Duda’s incapacity. The only thing it tells us is that Macron is the voice of doubt and reason in all [NATO] group but that Duda does not react to suspicions about Zelensky. He’s selling Zelensky’s streak.”